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On "Nice guys"...

So back in the day when I was a younger and much more annoying person, I had an article that ran in a women’s online magazine, don’t ask me which, it’s long defunct (yay dotcom bubble) anyways. In said article, I was a proponent of the nice guy who always finished last. I had all sorts of crazy ideals on what a good person would do to get a girl, what a nice guy was, and why girls didn’t like em. A lot of guys agreed with me, and so did a lot of girls. So yeah, I was full of bullshit, but still, there are some things I believe then that I still don’t think are wrong.

Lately I’ve been seeing a trend in people who have been linking to articles either like the whiney nice guy ones, or the heartless bitch ones, both taking an extreme view of the situation. Now let me say this right now, anyone of you who is looking at this as a black and white situation may be looking at it wrong. Just like a lot of things, this one needs a bit from both sides to get it right I think.

I think nice guys do exist, and that they don’t know it. I think the first step in determining if you are a nice guy or not is an honesty check. If you can say to yourself that you are the “Nice Guy” that all of those articles describe, then really, truly, your not. Because if you are going out there, looking for sympathy because of your plight as a nice guy then really, you are not a nice guy, you are a poser. This rant is dedicated to you, the poser, not the actual nice guys.

Don’t feel too bad, everyone poses from one time to another. It’s human nature to want to be something as ideal as what the “nice guy” is built up to be. But the problem lies in the fact that if you are trying to be the nice guy, you are already mucking it up. The nice guy that people used to talk about never had intentions of helping anyone by being a nice guy. The nice guy was just that, the nice guy. He didn’t try to be the nice guy, he just is.

The best advice that I can give you is just to be you. Don’t do this mask bullshit thing, or the whole front thing, because even if someone did start to like you for who you were like that, as soon as you start letting down your guard, you may be in for a shock when they leave you.

Back in the day, when you’d get ready for your date, you go and put your best on, maybe go ask pops for the keys to the nice car, and hopefully, you’d already have the cash that you worked for to pay for the date.(Pardon me on this point, but damnit, I still believe the guy should pay. It’s sexist, it’s one sided, but hey, that’s what I believe ^^). You would be you on your best behavior, but you would indeed be you. You would go on dates to get to know the person better, and you’d quickly find out if you were compatable with that other person. Were you locked into the “Cup-O-Noodle Instant Relatonship”? No. You could date different people and it wasn’t seen as cheating. If you were an ass, then hey, you might not get a lot of repeat dates. People didn’t always agree to go out with you, but ya know what, it was ok, because you weren’t in love with them. You could still be friends, but the line was clear, no and no, meant no. Wanna save yourself a lot of grief maybe the next time a girl says no to you? Then maybe take them at that. It’s a lost art of reading when no means not right now, or maybe even not till were better friends, or no means no, not ever. Maybe you should try being friends with girls with no ulterior motives. I’m not saying don’t be direct towards girls if you like them, but instead I’m saying, don’t be a whiney bitch if they say no, or if the relationship ends.

Now up till now, I’ve pretty much just been a lighter version of the people who think nice guys are just codependent asses in disguise. But I’m going to switch tones here and do a bit of defending for ya.

Okay, now lets be honest girls. A lot of you have those male friends who you tell anything to, all your boyfriend woes, and all of that, and you bring them to the level of what would have used to have been a close personal female friend. I know a lot of you all to some degree find yourselves getting along better with the opposite gender instead of girls. Herein lays a fundamental problem. Aside from the occasional girl who likes girls, you don’t run the risk of having your confidant develop feelings for you other then those of deeper friendship. When you take someone and give them so many levels of trust, for someone who is in the co dependant mindset, and act as an enabler of said co dependencies, the chances of them falling for you increases greatly. Want to be in on the eradication of this behavior? Don’t be an enabler.

People, stop being so god damn fake nice to people. Hurt people’s feelings, get them to go away if their intentions bug the shit out of you. Don’t put up with it. Maybe they will eventually learn that that behavior isn’t what you want.

I’m not saying don’t be friends with guys, but god damnit, don’t let them act like this. Confront them on it, and maybe help reform them.

And for the record nice guys do exist. they just don't whine if you say no, nor do they stop being friends with you if you do. Practice and you can pick between who's a poser and an actual nice guy.

My closing comments to the “Nice guys”
Be yourself.
Love who you are.
If you don’t love yourself, do the world a favor and don’t go trying to date people until you do.
Sensitivity is ok, showing weakness is ok, what is not okay is being a whiney bitch. I’m pretty confident is saying that girls don’t like whiney bitches.
Stop whining in LJ. Grow up. Get over it. It really is as easy as that.

Ok, I’m done ranting…
-Sean
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    lol posting to lj.... weeeird

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    And in the spirit of my last LJ Post, Happy 2011 everyone who I stalk on LJ :)

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    So after avoiding LJ for so long, I just want to drop by and say Happy New Years everyone :)

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    lol posting to lj.... weeeird

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    And in the spirit of my last LJ Post, Happy 2011 everyone who I stalk on LJ :)

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    So after avoiding LJ for so long, I just want to drop by and say Happy New Years everyone :)